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Toon Ganondorf

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Merging Incomplete Edit

Look, I hate to be the jerk here, but you do need to be a little more careful when you're merging pages. When you merged Knightmare and Spirit of Knightmare, you ended up writing...

"Spirit of Knightmare's but retained nearly the identical measurements (it was only 10cm longer)."
— Knightmare

...and I have to be honest, I had absolutely no idea what you were trying to say because the structure was really badly broken. I've tried to fix it as best I can, but if that's not what you wanted to say, I can only apologise. Just try to be a little more careful next time if you can? CrashBash (talk) 09:15, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

No one would say anything about anyone being a jerk. To err is human. The sentence was probably originally "Spirit of Knightmare's dimensions were nearly identical", but I moved stuff around. The edit is just to remove the apostrophe and superfluous "s". Thanks for cleaning it up. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 09:36, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

Bulldog Breed image Edit

Bulldog Breed Mantis Series 7

I don't know if you've realised that this image is from Series 3 not Series 7. I'm sure it was an accident.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:54, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

looks like the wrong one came off my desktop, whoops. I'll fix it when I'm back at my computer. Thanks for the pickup. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 11:03, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

Crushtacean Edit

Hi TG, about the recent edit to the Crustacean article. That was actually me that put that information down but I didn't realise at the time that I wasn't logged in like as I usually am when I come on here frequently so can only apologise. Furthermore, here is also the Facebook chat I had with Dominic Visser when I asked him.

Liam Bryant: "Hi Dominik, how's everything going? Hope you enjoyed the Robot Wars show at Manchester. Was going to ask you something, I contribute to the Robot Wars Wiki, the online encyclopedia about RW and was wondering what the information was again about Crustacean not being in the 2016 Series? Just as information to be added on"
Dominic Visser: "I couldn't make the filming because I had university, hope that helps!"
Liam Bryant: "Cheers, so you withdrew basically?"
Dominic Visser: "Yeah basically"
— Dominic Visser explains why he couldn't make the 2016 series

Hope this helps. Liam Bryant 11:46, August 25, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Liam, can you please printscreen it and put it on the talk page? Then we can add it back in. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 11:07, August 25, 2016 (UTC)
Don't mention it, only question is how do you printscreen things? Liam Bryant (talk) 12:18, August 25, 2016 (UTC)
If you're on a Mac, press "Command-Shift-4" and drag the box around the section you want, which will save a PNG to the desktop. If you're on a PC, "Control-Print Screen" and then open Paint, press Control-V and it'll paste there. Then crop it. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 11:28, August 25, 2016 (UTC)

Kat 3 + Undoing Edit

Didn't you tell me just a few days ago that "undoing is not for when you disagree"? In that case, can I please, politely, point out that that statement should apply to you as well. CrashBash (talk) 11:14, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

I was preserving the status quo. That was the difference. But I don't want to offer excuses, I'm glad to see you're conscious of the rules. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 14:20, September 6, 2016 (UTC)
Yes, and I made an honest mistake, yet you ragged on me. So, not really a difference. CrashBash (talk) 14:24, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

Rollback Edit

I'm sure this is old news, and I'm not trying to sound rude, but can I have my rollback powers back? I got them years ago and when I left you took them away because I didn't need them. I get that, but you didn't leave me any room to come back as I was. Promotions aren't like library books, you shouldn't have to rent them out for a period. You wouldn't want your admin powers subject to availability. GutripperSpeak 01:03, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

That's completely fair and I apologise for doing so. They've now been restored. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 01:29, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

stopping editingEdit

Why are you being a ass to CB? Granted, he can be annoying but others are messing up and you're punishing him allow. If you can't add stuff without a cite, what's the point of even editing on here if everything is going to have "citation?" added after it? Only place I'll edit from now on, my user page and that it is. Sam (BAZINGA) 23:55, October 10, 2016 (UTC)

I understand your concerns. I gave Crash a very short block because I have given him five warnings on the same thing and he has constantly ignored me. Despite his allegations, no one else on this Wiki has been removing the citation tag.
Referencing and the citation template is used on every single Wiki except ours, and its a step we are taking because we are constantly getting criticised for not fact checking. Mark Joerger fought with us about it many years ago, causing us almost irreparable harm on Wikipedia and in the roboteer community. Gary Cairns openly criticises us in Forums, and even roboteers like Team Shakey have come to this Wiki to complain. The template I feel is very clear - it is there to flag things that we need a footnote, and it gets removed once a footnote has been added. Not everything needs a citation tag - things on the TV show don't, for example, because everyone can find it. Its things like "Bondi-Titch was a stock robot, not an actual Australian robot", which contradicts the broadcast and so we need to show readers how we know that. Now that the Stock Robot page has been referenced, the tag has been removed.
I'm disappointed you feel that my pursuing this policy means you need to stop editing, but I will respect your choice to do so. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 00:17, October 11, 2016 (UTC)
Can you please stop saying I "ignored" you when I simply mistook what you wanted? To ignore you, I wouldn't have posted the reference anywhere at all. CrashBash (talk) 19:30, October 15, 2016 (UTC)
It would've been nice if there was a blog where you explained how they the citation thing works, what info to use it on, what info not to use it on and whatever else there is to know about it. There one major problem with the citation thingy as well, the source for some of the questionable but true bits of info collected over the years might be old team websites that have vanished without been added to the Wayback Machine, hence, the source of the info is lost forever! Didn't think about that, did you? Sam (BAZINGA) 22:32, October 15, 2016 (UTC)
It doesn't have to be a perfect citation, it just has to point towards where the info came from, even if it isn't accessible anymore. The citation tool is explained quite clearly on Robot Wars Wiki:Canon. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:01, October 15, 2016 (UTC)
Just as a heads-up, but maybe the next time Crash gets into trouble (I hate to say this, but I think it's a matter of when rather than if) maybe someone else could reprimand him? I've noticed that it's mostly been TG reminding him- I wouldn't be surprised if Crash considered that proof that TG was singling him out each time. Having said that, I did notice some praise given to Crash- but still, nine times out of 10, whenever Crash ends up in hot water, it's TG who deals with it. Maybe have someone else sort it out next time? It mightn't work out anyways (mainly because the other admins appear to be quite busy), but it might be worth a try. Just my two cents of course. S256 23:22, October 15, 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to message Toast or RA2 to tell Crash off when he and I can have a mature and direct conversation about it that can be easily resolved. That's unfair on someone like Toast, and completely passive aggressive. Contrary to what people seem to believe for some reason, I don't actually have an irrational hatred for Crash, I think he's a very intelligent user and a valuable asset. When he does great stuff, I point it out. When he does the wrong thing I point it out. No different for how I would treat any other user. As for 9 times out of 10, I don't know where that logic falls because I haven't been here regularly since 2011. I didn't settle the Nuts dispute or any other issues, those were other admins.
I have no interest in continuing this conversation, because the block has well and truly expired and the issue is settled. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:35, October 15, 2016 (UTC)
The reason people believe you have something against me is because you're so hyper-aggressive, or rather you have been in the past. I do apologise for bringing this up when it hasn't been a thing for years, but the fact that you flat-out tried to perma-ban me for nothing more than correcting a mistake you had made about Panic Attack, Disc-O-Inferno and The Steel Avenger (which I had a pretty good citation for, ironically) and then never even tried to apologise about it beyond retracting the perma-ban after it had been active for about a year is not something people are going to forget, and I'm afraid that still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Not to mention you once said to me, and I quote, "I'm sorry but I don't have to prove anything to you", which is extremely hypocritical because you banned me for not proving what I said, even though technically I had tried. And I'm sorry, but "we were all young once" is not really an excuse - the fact remains, you should have been banned for that comment alone, but you weren't because nobody could. Yes, I know that was years ago, yes, I know you've matured greatly and I will commend you for that...but it's very difficult to ignore what's been done in the past. Especially when it comes across purely as "I'm allowed to do this, but you aren't".
I'm sorry I had to say this, but I know I had to say it now. I'm pretty sure the old you from 4+ years ago would have just had a hissy fit and tried to perma-ban me again, but I know you're no longer that. I know for a fact you're better than that now. But there are still things that both of us need to improve on and work towards. CrashBash (talk) 15:33, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
Please can we just drop this. I'm bored of this argument and all we're doing is bringing it up again and prolonging the argument. Can you two just have a virtual handshake and move on. Jimlaad43(talk) 15:42, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
This isn't an argument. I'm just genuinely explaining my thoughts on the matter, more specifically the claims about the "irrational hatrid", in a calm and concise manner. Sometimes these sorts of things are important to bring up - and ultimately, this sort of thing can and will lead to the "virtual handshake". But it's no argument. CrashBash (talk) 15:47, October 19, 2016 (UTC)

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