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Gauntlet[]

Demolition Demon
 Demolition Demon Votes for Demolition Demon
  1. This is my least favourite part of the fantasy competition, because realistically the House Robots could eliminate whoever they want. I was least impressed with Demolition Demon of these six. Yes, it cleared the gauntlet in the heats, but look at the bigger picture. It took the completely flat path, and was quite fortunate that Matilda let it go and Bash didn't chase it at all. It looks slow, too low to take the ramps, and too high to evade the House Robots. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 18:44, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
Chaos
 Chaos (6) Votes for Chaos
Oblivion
 Oblivion Votes for Oblivion
  1. I agree with the whole of RA2's first statement, which is why I believe the lightweight, weaponless, less powerful, smaller Oblivion machine will suffer the most, as it will prove the easier to push around by the house robots. Datovidny (talk) 08:01, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
Inquisitor
 Inquisitor Votes for Inquisitor
Technophobic
 Technophobic Votes for Technophobic
  1. Running through my options, I think it's fairly clear that Chaos and Oblivion are the best two machines for the Gauntlet, and so will qualify with ease. Inquisitor is slower, but has a decent ground clearance, and so will be able to avoid the attacks of Shunt, Matilda and Sir Killalot. Demolition Demon is smaller, and quite nippy, allowing it to avoid trouble with the House Robots. Technophobic is slower, larger and higher than its opponents, and so will not do brilliantly here. MattRobot WarsTalk to me 17:31, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
  2. I wouldn't be surprised if the producers eliminated Inquisitor, purely because it beat Razer. But I can't act on assumptions, and I don't find Technophobic well suited for this. ToastUltimatum 20:02, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
Disruptor
 Disruptor Votes for Disruptor
  1. It's never easy to judge how well a robot will do at a non-combat event. However, there are always clues, namely how well the robot performed in its heat. Whilst it's not always the best way, it does give the odd hint. Disruptor, for example, performed very poorly in its heat. The others either completed or got a good way down the track, which I think will be the Welsh robot's undoing. CrashBash (talk) 18:10, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
  2. As much as I like Disruptor, CrashBash is right. it didn't do well in either non-combat event, and it just looks the least favorable out of the six. Badnik96 19:35, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
  3. It's hard to make an educated decision on this one, because we never really saw Disruptor do a proper gauntlet run: Dead Metal moved the ramp why delayed Disruptor for long enough for Sir Killalot to move in. But it wasn't as quick as some of its opponents, neither was it a great pusher or designed for this. It'll be nothing more than fodder. The Samster (talk) 20:24, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Every other robot here had something that could see it through. But Disruptor didn't have the pace, didn't have the manoeuvrability, and I can't see how it would get through. Having said that, it would be close between Disruptor and Technophobic. snowdog140 20:50, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Disruptor has low speed and this will work against it. Madlooney6 09:23, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
Eliminated: Disruptor (5-2-1-1-0-0)

Trial (Pinball)[]

Demolition Demon
 Demolition Demon Votes for Demolition Demon
  1. The pinball was all about agility, and we are all eliminating the robot that we think has the least of it. If I'm honest, against the very agile Chaos, tiny Oblivion, nippy Technophobic and slippery Inquisitor, I think Demolition Demon has the disadvantage. Even in terms of speed as well. Datovidny (talk) 22:07, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Demolition Demon looks like it could get wedged on one of the bricks or stuck on a ramp. At least Techonophobic looked powerful. The Samster (talk) 15:53, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
Chaos
 Chaos (6) Votes for Chaos
Oblivion
 Oblivion Votes for Oblivion
Inquisitor
 Inquisitor Votes for Inquisitor
  1. Inquisitor always looked a bit too "stop-and-start," and very slow. I can't see it knocking over barrels apart from the one on the very top, can't see it having enough push to hit the car door or multiball release, can't see it being fast enough to get in on a target unless the house robots help it out. Technophobic looked good and steady, and will at least take the ramp, they proved that in their gauntlet run. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 16:39, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
    Hold on, aren't we using the Series 2 pinball, so surely the car door and multiball release are irrelevant? snowdog140 17:49, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
    Right, I don't know why I thought those things were in the Series 2 version, bit I still think hte same points apply. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 22:33, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Technophobic couldn't get stuck on a barrel. A brick, perhaps, but hopefully the team will know what to do. I find Inquisitor therefore the least capable. ToastUltimatum 17:28, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
Technophobic
 Technophobic Votes for Technophobic
  1. Once again I'm going to vote Technophobic out. My reasoning this time is that it is the only machine of the five with no wedge shape, making it vulnerable to getting stuck on the bricks and barrels that are the major point scoring opportunities. MattRobot WarsTalk to me 16:23, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
  2. It's even hard to tell for a trial like pinball, especially considering none of the robots had a very pinball-equse trial...well, except Demolition Demon, to a degree. But for pinball, you do need a decent speed, something Technophobic doesn't have. CrashBash (talk) 16:36, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
  3. As I said with Havoc, it's not about the robot being bad enough to go out, it's the other robots being good enough to unfortunately send one packing. Technophobic could score well, but the others will probably do better. snowdog140 17:59, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
  4. I definitely see Technophobic getting stranded on something. Badnik96 20:36, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Technophobic stuck on something and go out at this stage. Madlooney6 21:34, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
Eliminated: Technophobic (5-2-2-0-0)

Arena[]

Demolition Demon vs Inquisitor[]

Demolition Demon Inquisitor
Demolition Demon
Inquisitor
Votes for Demolition Demon
  1. To be honest, I think Demolition Demon has the more potent weapon here. Who's to say it won't actually try to drive onto the wedge, which would be suicide, lets face it. But once it gets its saw or even spike to use, then it has aggression points racking up. Judges decision, yes, but still....CrashBash (talk) 16:51, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Inquisitor can get under Demolition Demon, but just how good is Inquisitor's pushing power? Demolition Demon can cause damage, enough to award it the win. ToastUltimatum 17:14, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  3. To be frank, neither of these robots are very good, but Demolition Demon actually has weapons that work. I see a very boring battle, with DD barely winning on damage in a judges decision. /M|ddle Eye\ (Talk) 17:54, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
 Votes for Inquisitor
  1. Inquisitor's wedge is by far the better one. It has the ability to shove Demolition Demon around, and into the PPZ, and time shows that's game over. MattRobot WarsTalk to me 16:09, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Demolition to be pitted. Madlooney6 16:19, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Inquisitor has the spikes at the base of its wedge, whereas Demolition Demon had an incredibly high ground clearance. Demolition Demon was also much slower than Inquisitor. Demolition Demon will be caught on the wedge of Inquisitor, at some point during the battle. It will remain there for the rest of the battle, and Inquisitor will go through on a judges' decision, due to control and aggression. Datovidny (talk) 18:18, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Speed plus a low ground clearance is going to do it here. DD's weapons are too weak to cause damage, and Inquisitor just needs to get it into a PPZ. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 19:33, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Neither of these robots had the best weaponry, but Inquisitor was lower and has better pushing power, so it has to be them for me. The Samster (talk) 20:01, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Yep, the ground clearance wins it for me. Badnik96 23:40, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Winner: Inquisitor (6-3)

Chaos (6) vs Oblivion[]

Chaos (6) Oblivion
Chaos
Oblivion
Votes for Chaos
  1. Chaos would have the beating of all three of these machines hands down. Oblivion down the pit. MattRobot WarsTalk to me 16:09, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Oblivion out of the competition. Madlooney6 16:19, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Oblivion may have had the lower ground clearance all around, but Chaos had the advantage at the base of the flipping arm, so would be able to flip Oblivion around a little bit. Chaos had a top speed of 20mph, and was very agile, so it should always be able to turn and face Oblivion, to start an attack. Oblivion lacked the power anyway, so even if it could get underneath Chaos, what would it do? apart from lurch, and then back away again. The battle will go to a judges' decision, with Chaos winning on control, style and aggression. Datovidny (talk) 18:23, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Even with the ground clearance to dodge the flipper, Oblivion is still at a serious speed (12 against Chaos' 20, not equal) and weight disadvantage. Sure Chaos got flipped against Mace, but that was Matilda's doing and she's twice as heavy and fast as Oblivion. This version of Chaos can still push even if it's wedged, thanks to its exposed wheels. It may not flip, but I do not think it will have trouble out-pushing Oblivion. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 19:33, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
 Votes for Oblivion
  1. Chaos would be the obvious choice, but look at the bigger picture...who has the lower ground clearance? The answer is Oblivion, or rather seems obvious to me that it is Oblivion. Chaos only has a narrow margin to work its flipper on, and Oblivion could in theory do with Chaos what it wants. Might even be able to overturn it, and with the "flaps" not there...but more likely, it'll push it around into the House Robots. CrashBash (talk) 16:51, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Have to agree with the above. Plus, Chaos' flipper worked in a way rather like Series 5 Diotoir. If it misses, or the opponent is not flipped, the flipper won't retract for a while, and Chaos will be left open. Oblivion is invertible. With Chaos' body shape, I think Oblivion can put Chaos on its back. ToastUltimatum 17:14, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Oblivion is Chaos' equal speedwise. Chaos does have the lifter, but it didn't even flip Wheelosaurus, and as has been said, it didn't retract. Plus, even if Oblivion were flipped, it's invertable. Chaos has one heck of a ground clearence, and Oblivion's wedge can easily get under that and push Chaos into the pit, or even tip it over. /M|ddle Eye\ (Talk) 17:54, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
  4. This might just be me, but Chaos looks rather easy to topple and we have to assume George forgets to put the plastic on like he did against Mace. The Samster (talk) 20:01, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Again, the lower ground clearance nets my vote. Badnik96 23:41, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Winner: Oblivion (5-4)
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